Delivered-To: wherrin@gmail.com Received: by 10.204.45.71 with SMTP id d7cs176087bkf; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 07:57:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.83.5 with SMTP id k5mr11036551ybl.295.1289318249674; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:57:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from magic.dirtside.com (magic.dirtside.com [70.184.240.83]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i1si14007436yha.141.2010.11.09.07.57.28; Tue, 09 Nov 2010 07:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 70.184.240.83 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net) client-ip=70.184.240.83; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 70.184.240.83 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net) smtp.mail=arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net Received: from lists.arin.net (lists.arin.net [199.212.0.107]) by magic.dirtside.com (8.14.3/) with ESMTP id oA9FvMvm017515 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:57:22 -0500 X-Really-To: Received: from lists.arin.net (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by lists.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E59174C00; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:57:21 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: arin-ppml@lists.arin.net Delivered-To: arin-ppml@lists.arin.net Received: from smtp2.arin.net (smtp2.arin.net [IPv6:2001:500:4:13::32]) by lists.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74FD3174C00 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:57:19 -0500 (EST) Received: by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix, from userid 323) id 687E6213641; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:57:19 -0500 (EST) X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5-arin1 (2008-06-10) on smtp2.arin.net Received: from ams-iport-2.cisco.com (ams-iport-2.cisco.com [144.254.224.141]) by smtp2.arin.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B9192134E7 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 10:57:18 -0500 (EST) Authentication-Results: ams-iport-2.cisco.com; dkim=neutral (message not signed) header.i=none X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApgFABv+2EyQ/khNgWdsb2JhbACDOJBojgIVAQEWIiKjbIozkTWEV3MEilY X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.59,174,1288569600"; d="scan'208,217";a="12990424" Received: from ams-core-4.cisco.com ([144.254.72.77]) by ams-iport-2.cisco.com with ESMTP; 09 Nov 2010 15:57:14 +0000 Received: from dhcp-10-61-100-196.cisco.com (dhcp-10-61-100-196.cisco.com [10.61.100.196]) by ams-core-4.cisco.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id oA9FvEnH026342 for ; Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:57:14 GMT Message-ID: Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:57:34 +0100 From: Eliot Lear User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: arin-ppml@arin.net References: <4CD55B73.9030104@arin.net> <4CD960EF.2010202@cisco.com> <20101109151958.GA30382@ussenterprise.ufp.org> In-Reply-To: <20101109151958.GA30382@ussenterprise.ufp.org> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Policy Proposal 120: Protecting Number Resources X-BeenThere: arin-ppml@arin.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Public Policy Mailing List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0567990758==" Sender: arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net Errors-To: arin-ppml-bounces@arin.net X-Spam-Checker: magic.dirtside.com X-Spam-Report: * 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message * -2.6 BAYES_00 BODY: Bayesian spam probability is 0 to 1% [score: 0.0000] X-Spam-Score: -2.6 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0567990758== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060802050407030301050403" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060802050407030301050403 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leo, Thank you for your explanation. It seems as though you would like to start with low hanging fruit where "abandoned" would mean: 1. the address space is not routed; and 2. one of the following circumstances applies: 1. administrative (or technical?) contact disavows use of the space 2. no contacts can be found either by email, by phone, or by post. This is the sort of specificity that would provide good direction to staff, scope the work, and provide the community some visibility as to the cost of the effort. I write "start" above because I could see this sort of policy evolving over time. Eliot --------------060802050407030301050403 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Leo,

Thank you for your explanation. It seems as though you would like to start with low hanging fruit where "abandoned" would mean:
  1. the address space is not routed; and
  2. one of the following circumstances applies:
    1. administrative (or technical?) contact disavows use of the space
    2. no contacts can be found either by email, by phone, or by post.
This is the sort of specificity that would provide good direction to staff, scope the work, and provide the community some visibility as to the cost of the effort.

I write "start" above because I could see this sort of policy evolving over time.

Eliot
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